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Creating a half wall to hide your cistern and soil pipe?

One of the most common questions we're asked when people are planning their bathrooms on Reno is around the space needed to create a half wall or built out section to hide a concealed cistern and soil pipe (also referred to as a pony wall, nib wall, concealment or false wall). This usually comes up when choosing a back to wall or wall hung toilet.

It's a great way to achieve a cleaner look, but it does need thinking through early, as the depth you need can affect the overall layout of the room.

How much space do you need for a concealed cistern?

Concealed cisterns come in different sizes. If space is tight, slimline cisterns are available, but even then you will need to allow enough depth to house it properly.

As a rough guide, you'll need a minimum of around 100mm depth to conceal a cistern alone. In some cases this can sit within a 100mm stud wall, but it depends on the cistern model and the wall build up.

When it comes to height, you'll generally want something that feels comfortable to use and makes good use of the shelving space it creates. In practice, height is rarely the limiting factor.

As a rough guide, you'’ll be looking at a minimum height of around a standard basin height, roughly 850mm, and above. What usually defines the final height is less about the toilet itself and more about how the half wall lines up with the rest of the room. This might be a half height tile running around the space, the height of a basin or vanity unit, or another piece of furniture you want it to sit neatly alongside.

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Allowing for the soil pipe as well

If you're planning to run the toilet soil pipe along the wall within the same built out section, the depth increases.

A toilet soil pipe is 110mm in diameter, and once you allow for the pipe, the cistern, the frame and the finished wall surface, you'll typically need around 200mm depth to contain everything neatly.

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Flush access and maintenance

How you access the cistern for maintenance is another detail that's worth deciding early.

Front access cisterns are paired with a flush plate that also provides access to the internals. This is the familiar rectangular plate with the flush buttons that sits above the toilet.

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Top access cisterns allow more flexibility if you want a neater flush button or handle integrated into a shelf or wall detail. The trade off is that you'll need a removable shelf or panel above the cistern to allow for future access.

There's no right or wrong option here, but it's much easier to plan this upfront than retrofit access later.

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Wall hung toilets and frames

If you're choosing a wall hung toilet, there's another layer to consider. Wall hung toilets require a metal frame that supports the weight of the toilet and fixes it back to the structure.

That frame sits behind the wall along with the cistern, so you need to consider the combined depth and height of the frame and cistern together when planning the boxed in section.

This can increase both the depth and the height of the half wall, which may influence things like shelf heights, window positions or tile layouts.

The takeaway

Building out a half wall, pony wall, concealment or false wall to hide a cistern and soil pipe can make a bathroom feel calmer and more considered, but it's not just a cosmetic decision. The depth you need depends on whether you're hiding just the cistern or the soil pipe as well, and whether you're using a wall hung or back to wall toilet.

Planning these dimensions early makes it much easier to avoid awkward compromises later.

Frequently asked questions

1

How much space do I need to hide a concealed toilet cistern?

Most concealed cisterns need a minimum depth of around 100mm. Slimline cisterns can sometimes fit within a 100mm stud wall, but the exact depth depends on the cistern model and wall build up.

2

How deep does a half or pony wall need to be to hide a toilet soil pipe?

If the soil pipe is being run within the same built out concealment wall as the cistern, you will typically need around 200mm depth. This allows space for the 110mm soil pipe, the cistern, any frame, and the finished wall surface.

3

Can a concealed cistern fit inside a stud wall?

In some cases, a concealed cistern can fit within a 100mm stud wall, particularly if a slimline cistern is used. Whether this is possible depends on the cistern design, pipe routes and how the wall is constructed.

4

What access do you need for maintaining a concealed toilet cistern?

Concealed cisterns need access for maintenance. Front access cisterns use a flush plate that doubles as an access panel, while top access cisterns require a removable shelf or panel above the toilet to reach the cistern.

5

Does a wall hung toilet need more space behind the wall?

Yes. Wall hung toilets require a metal support frame as well as a concealed cistern. Both sit behind the wall, so the combined depth and height of the frame with the cistern need to be allowed for when planning the boxed in section (some frames include cistern support).

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